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 Post subject: Sea Switzerland 5 turns Tournament
PostPosted: Tue Nov 03, 2015 1:48 pm 
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Hi, community!

In this topic will be published all the information related to "Sea Switzerland 5 turns" Tournament that was recently published on MAN2 website:

- Number of rounds (fixed when player's number known).
- Player's list ordered by glicko.
- Pairing games of each round.

and any important information on it.

Please, read the rules carefully because was included a little change in the match's score compared to previous tournaments with this system (swiss system).

I hope this tournament will be great for all of us! :D

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 Post subject: Re: Sea Switzerland 5 turns Tournament
PostPosted: Tue Nov 03, 2015 11:26 pm 
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However, large maps with only 5 rounds of revenue don't make sense. Just my opinion.

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 Post subject: Re: Sea Switzerland 5 turns Tournament
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 Post subject: Re: Sea Switzerland 5 turns Tournament
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 Post subject: Re: Sea Switzerland 5 turns Tournament
PostPosted: Thu Nov 12, 2015 10:09 am 
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Hi,

I agree with careless and GI Joe comments but the choice of 5 turns is simply practical.
A tournament in a giant map like Sea Switzerland implies many time to play it and we must to think in the tournament dinamics.
In this pairing mode (swiss system) the games of the next round can't start until all the previous round's games were finished.

The experience with "Trinity 5 turns" tournament is good, I think, and some players told me about it. The planning is different and the disclosure order has more importance that a 10 turns game.

In attached image you can see the designed award for this tournament.

I hope that all the players have a good experience playing it.

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 Post subject: Re: Sea Switzerland 5 turns Tournament
PostPosted: Thu Nov 12, 2015 10:48 am 
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Thanks for organizing this and other tournaments!

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 Post subject: Re: Sea Switzerland 5 turns Tournament
PostPosted: Sun Nov 15, 2015 3:40 am 
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 Post subject: Re: Sea Switzerland 5 turns Tournament
PostPosted: Mon Nov 16, 2015 2:07 pm 
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tese1969 wrote:
I agree with careless and GI Joe comments but the choice of 5 turns is simply practical.
A tournament in a giant map like Sea Switzerland implies many time to play it and we must to think in the tournament dinamics.
In this pairing mode (swiss system) the games of the next round can't start until all the previous round's games were finished.

The experience with "Trinity 5 turns" tournament is good, I think, and some players told me about it. The planning is different and the disclosure order has more importance that a 10 turns game.


I agree. Ten turns is much better under ideal conditions. However, the 5 turns on Trinity proved to be quite interesting and probably helped speed up what was already a long tournament. It does change the gameplay, but that too can be interesting, and when the map is so large, it isn't quite as painful. In fact, having only 5 turns of income can help those players who get a very bad draw (as you don't lose so much). Keeping 3-4 countries undisclosed is not so bad and you attempt to take others instead.

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 Post subject: Re: Sea Switzerland 5 turns Tournament
PostPosted: Thu Nov 19, 2015 12:37 pm 
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One other question: Is it possible to setup the game to play only until 75% balance is achieved? For such a map, the game should be surrendered even before that point, but getting all the way to 100% on the largest maps takes a very long time if the loser plays it out.


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 Post subject: Re: Sea Switzerland 5 turns Tournament
PostPosted: Thu Nov 19, 2015 5:34 pm 
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Dear happygrue

I pressume that software developers could do it, but is not possible with our management tools.

I remind all the players that in swiss-system pairing mode the number of turns is not important for the score or tie-break rules.

If a player is clearly losing and don't want surrender, moderators can finish the game in the case that there are not more active games.
Really, there are 2 options when the situation is fully hopeless: surrender or time-out.

Is not good to have 30 or more players waiting for the next round when the result of the game is clear.

In our previous experience with this system players are doing very well in that situations. I hope in this great tournament the same behavior of the players.

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 Post subject: Re: Sea Switzerland 5 turns Tournament
PostPosted: Thu Nov 19, 2015 10:18 pm 
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Sounds good!


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 Post subject: Re: Sea Switzerland 5 turns Tournament
PostPosted: Tue Nov 24, 2015 1:20 pm 
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Hi, community!

We have achieved 40 players and the registration has been closed.

Let me say that I feel the happiest moderator in the world! :D

It is not easy to have many of the legends of this game among those registered, but they are here, ready to delight us with great battles!

I want to thank each and every one of the players their trust in this system and in the moderator. :wink:

Some important points about this tournament:

1.- The number of rounds is fixed in 7.

2.- If a player does not start their games in 1 round will be eliminated.

3.- Each round is 1 point for match:
- 2 wins or 1 win and 1 draw will be 1-0 for match's score.
- 1 win by side or 2 draws will be 0,5-0,5.

In attached images, you can see the wonderful (by quality) list of players ordered by glicko and the pairing games of the round 1.

Games will start on Friday, November 27th

Good luck to all and thank you again!


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 Post subject: Re: Sea Switzerland 5 turns Tournament
PostPosted: Sat Nov 28, 2015 7:36 am 
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In MAN2 have a long-standing lack of - when you create a pair of games (one of the green and red), the location of allies in these games often an almost identical. Moderator to create tournament games can avoid this by choosing other options in the tournament manager. You can not create a party game immediately, but to create one game all players 2 times.
This wish for future rounds :)


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 Post subject: Re: Sea Switzerland 5 turns Tournament
PostPosted: Sat Nov 28, 2015 4:11 pm 
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Thanks for the advice, AHgpeu!

Le_Roy told me about that previously, but I thinked that problem could be create at once several games with same color for the same player, like in World Cup groups, having 3 games with red and 3 with green simultaneously.

In this tournament I have not started all the games at same time, but I did by groups of games. Inside that groups, effectively, I started together green and red for same player. :(

Then, can I start 1 game of each pairing match for all the players and after, the other game?

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 Post subject: Re: Sea Switzerland 5 turns Tournament
PostPosted: Sat Nov 28, 2015 5:17 pm 
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tese1969 wrote:
Then, can I start 1 game of each pairing match for all the players and after, the other game?

Yes.


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 Post subject: Re: Sea Switzerland 5 turns Tournament
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 Post subject: Re: Sea Switzerland 5 turns Tournament
PostPosted: Fri Jan 15, 2016 1:44 pm 
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Hi, community!

All the 1st round's games were finished and we can start 2nd round.

In attached image you can see the pairing games of the round 2.
(this great tournament offers great clashes since this second round)

Players andorover and sss19811982 were eliminated (don't start games rule).

Games will start on Saturday, January 16.

Good luck to all!


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 Post subject: Re: Sea Switzerland 5 turns Tournament
PostPosted: Sat Jan 16, 2016 4:49 pm 
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Why is a player sieniakx got zero points?

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 Post subject: Re: Sea Switzerland 5 turns Tournament
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I found rules in the English site. The previous question is removed.

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 Post subject: Re: Sea Switzerland 5 turns Tournament
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Hi, community

All the games of 2nd round were finished and we can start 3rd round.

In attached image you can see the pairing games of the round 3.

I would like remind that from this round time limit is 14 days + 23 frozen hours.

Games will start on Wednesday, March 23.

Good luck!


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