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 Post subject: Little Clan War
PostPosted: Mon Mar 01, 2004 7:09 pm 
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After hearing lots of feedback from players on how they would like to be involved in the clan war, but with the "elite" people making up 80% of the clan members they feel like there's no point in joining it. As well as some people feeling taht the current clan war is too complicated with too many rules we've decided to bring out a second "little" clan war. This is for people who feel they aren't ready for the current clan war. And would like to be in clans and everything that goes with it.

So anyone interested please check out the rules at http://www.angelfire.com/empire/hofk/rules2.html We're looking to start this war on Saturday 13th March. Any clan's who want to join it please let me know before then on nealwalker@btinternet.com. We're not looking to get any high powered clans in this "little" war to give almost eveyrone a fighting chance at winning.

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I forgot to say a player can't be in both wars. But the same clan may have people in both wars. In the main war clan's must have a minimum of 3 members to enter. We're gonna put a minimum of 2 players per clan on the "little" war.

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 01, 2004 8:06 pm 
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Nice to see that - i'll try to set it down for a new clan on the hood, and join the new 'litte' but really cruent clan war...
Hope some more people join and form new clans, despite it seems to me like next Saturday is a little too soon.
More news in a minute...


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Nice to see that - i'll try to set it down for a new clan on the hood, and join the new 'litte' but really cruent clan war...
Hope some more people join and form new clans, despite it seems to me like next Saturday is a little too soon.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 01, 2004 8:14 pm 
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isn't sat the 13th, saturday week? so u got 12 days

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Enforcer wrote:
isn't sat the 13th, saturday week? so u got 12 days


Sorry about that (and about tha double posting, by the way :D). i mistook the date.
I'm sure we'll be ready for the beggining of the war in a 12 days place, at the moment i think DryFire and Dracovious would join the clan, and i'm working in our name & statement now.
Probably tomorrow or in 2 days i'll make 'announcement' :wink: about.

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 02, 2004 8:02 am 
The only problem with Rottennik joining the little Clan war is that the new players are immediately going to feel that with a General involved they stand no chance. How about making it that the little clan war can only involve players ranked Major and below and once a player gets promoted to Colonel, he is forced to transfer to the major clan war. That way each clan will be incentivised to recruit newer members and train them to play well so that the clan does well in the little clan war and then gets additional players to play in the major clan war?

Myself, NiktheKid, mwigor and Odin are about to form a clan, possibly with Pim as well. Rottennik, if you, Dracovius and Dryfire join us then we will have plenty of players of appropriate ranks to join in both wars - how about it?

Mike


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Rocklizard wrote:
The only problem with Rottennik joining the little Clan war is that the new players are immediately going to feel that with a General involved they stand no chance. How about making it that the little clan war can only involve players ranked Major and below and once a player gets promoted to Colonel, he is forced to transfer to the major clan war. That way each clan will be incentivised to recruit newer members and train them to play well so that the clan does well in the little clan war and then gets additional players to play in the major clan war?

Mike


I agree with this suggestion.


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PostPosted: Tue Mar 02, 2004 8:26 am 
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Enforcer and I talked about this... a couple issues we ran into though.

1st - New clans don't have as many of the best players to choose from, as most of the best players have already joined a side in the big clan war. So it won't be as easy for them to be as competitive as they want to be. This is an example, I don't mean to say the highest ranked people can't be beat, but they tend to be intimidating to all players. So basically, from what I've heard, even mid range to veteran players are intimidated by the prospects of entering the clan war with such stiff competition. Because of this, some Colonels may not find a good way to join in. Of course there are exceptions to this, and maybe I'm wrong, but thats the impression I get.

2nd - Its another restriction that may or may limit the fun of players joining in. They may be a Colonel, but after a long painful process, and they still have things to learn about the game. A higher rating doesn't mean that you are more skilled, just more experienced. And some people don't like the prospects of being forced to play Tiger or Pitor or MortonHQ in a game where you have something to lose (a planet).

3rd - This little war doesn't have to be all new people... because clans choose who to assign as defenders, they can assign more experienced players to defend against more experienced players, and less experienced players against less experienced players. This of course assumes clans take members from all levels of skill (Anyone have any ideas of how to encourage this? Or should it just be a rule that for every Major you recruit you have to recruit a Corporal?)

Not saying that enforcing a rank limit can't be done fairly, but these are a few things to consider before deciding this. Things can always be changed later if the dynamics don't seem to allow new players to join in.

One last thing is that I think people generally will want to move on to the big leagues as soon as they think they can handle it.

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Rocklizard wrote:
The only problem with Rottennik joining the little Clan war is that the new players are immediately going to feel that with a General involved they stand no chance. How about making it that the little clan war can only involve players ranked Major and below and once a player gets promoted to Colonel, he is forced to transfer to the major clan war. That way each clan will be incentivised to recruit newer members and train them to play well so that the clan does well in the little clan war and then gets additional players to play in the major clan war?

Myself, NiktheKid, mwigor and Odin are about to form a clan, possibly with Pim as well. Rottennik, if you, Dracovius and Dryfire join us then we will have plenty of players of appropriate ranks to join in both wars - how about it?

Mike


Excellent idea, i've just sent to you an email.
We can make a 7-8 members clan with different ranges in it, so we can get into different tournaments.


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PostPosted: Tue Mar 02, 2004 8:49 am 
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yea we did consider setting the rank limit at major, but this is designed for the weaker players so we've decided to leave it upto the clans wether they feel that this war is suitable for whichever players. As if we get 4 clans full of captains or lower and 1 clan with lots of colonels+ then the colonels aren't going to enjoy their games very much (unless u're the sort of person who likes easy games)

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 02, 2004 5:34 pm 
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well rank and playing ability don't necessary go allong linearally (sp).


I"m still experimenting with different tactics to see what fits me best. While other peope my rank probably know the ropes very well.


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PostPosted: Mon Mar 08, 2004 12:11 am 
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Qohnil and Borealis of the New World Order will be joining the Little Clan War, if you could please add them to the roster.

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Is it possible, that our clan sent list of players some days later?
Now we have one player for this tournament - Zabber, but we discuss it with several players.


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PostPosted: Mon Mar 08, 2004 9:44 am 
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well am planning to start this at the weekend, but need mroe ppl/clans involved atm so we'll have to see.

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This is list of our clan's players for this tournament:

Lars

Ulgeta

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Conqueror of the NWO will be moving to the Little Clan War as well

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ok am away for some of weekend so will get this war started on sunday evening. Thre's still plenty of time to either join a clan or enter your own one (all u need is yourself and 1 other)

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the little war is good togo now, rules/battlecontrol can b found on my site, link in my signature. My teams a little outnubmered atm so if there's anyone out there that likes this is idea and wants to join a clan give me a shout.

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Enforcer wrote:
the little war is good togo now, rules/battlecontrol can b found on my site, link in my signature. My teams a little outnubmered atm so if there's anyone out there that likes this is idea and wants to join a clan give me a shout.


Could we start our attack?


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yes

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