Massive Assault Official Forum
   
It is currently Sun Aug 19, 2018 1:06 am

All times are UTC - 5 hours




Forum locked This topic is locked, you cannot edit posts or make further replies.  [ 283 posts ]  Go to page Previous  1 ... 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15  Next
Author Message
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Sat Oct 23, 2004 6:14 pm 
Offline
Veteran
User avatar

Joined: Thu Jan 01, 2004 6:47 pm
Posts: 161
Karma: 0
Rather than have a time limit for each turn, is there any way that each player could be given a number of days to play all their turns in a game i.e. 2 weeks. That way the game would never last longer than 4 weeks total.

Would be something like a chess clock where the other players time starts counting down as soon as you make your move.

That way there would be no need for a 2 or 3 day time limit on each turn and it would even allow players to go on holiday for a week without any trouble and extra hassle. The player can just play more quickly when they get back.

Like in chess, an extra amount of time could be given once both players have made say 10 turns.

I also suggest this for the clan war.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Sat Oct 23, 2004 11:37 pm 
Offline
Sea Wolf
User avatar

Joined: Sun May 23, 2004 2:47 am
Posts: 280
Karma: 0

Location: Phoenix AZ
that is exactly what I was proposing, I just did not know that was the way chess clocks work. It would provide the most flexibility for a player with a demanding schedule without wasting the time of their opponenets. Also totally agree it should be used for clan wars. I envision those CW maps becoming huge trafic jams since troops cannot move in or out of disputed territories.

_________________
"It's the little things that separate the good from the great"

http://www.freewebs.com/7thwanzer


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Sun Oct 24, 2004 5:13 am 
Offline
Tough Nut

Joined: Sun Aug 29, 2004 8:39 pm
Posts: 23
Karma: 0

Location: Australia
I admittedly haven't read all the posts in this thread, but I would like to query the time limit of the tournament - when given 3 days per turn, how is it that the tournament can finish before the final game is finished within this 3 day per turn limit?

I am asking because I am confused why one of my games cannot be counted even though I kept within the time limit.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Sun Oct 24, 2004 5:49 am 
Offline
Sea Wolf
User avatar

Joined: Sat Dec 13, 2003 3:06 am
Posts: 1338
Karma: 1

Location: USA
MortonHQ wrote:
Would be something like a chess clock where the other players time starts counting down as soon as you make your move.


It would be great if we could set the game to do something like this! Chess clocks ensure games move along quickly without killing flexibility like hard turn limits do.

But if its not implemented on the MA side, anything like this will be awfully difficult to track. It would require that moderators keep track of the time between turns for all games in progress with at least daily frequency, time which none of the moderator volunteers have.

We can only hope that MA:PR will inlude such options as a standard chess clock (time increment per turn, total game time).

_________________
Founder of The New World Order, and moderator for the Andromeda Clan War.

NWO website:
http://www.freewebs.com/massiveassault-nwo/index.htm

Clan War website:
http://www.massiveassault.com/clans/nwo/ClanWar


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Sun Oct 24, 2004 5:51 am 
Offline
Sea Wolf

Joined: Thu Jan 15, 2004 8:50 am
Posts: 1443
Karma: 0
Ben: You are given upto 3 days tot ake a move but you are given 4 wees to complete the whole game, else the game goes to ajudication

_________________
Have fun, that's an order! If you win even better!!
Clan War Site: http://www.massiveassault.com/clans/nwo/ClanWar/

Dragonshard Fan Site: http://www.rpgplanet.com/dragonshard/


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Sun Oct 24, 2004 8:56 am 
Offline
Sea Wolf

Joined: Thu Mar 25, 2004 1:24 pm
Posts: 466
Karma: 0
Ben - As your game couldn't affect the standings in the group in any case - it wasn't necessary for it to be adjudicated.

The rules originally specified a 3 week limit for games - this was extended to 4 weeks.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Sun Oct 24, 2004 9:17 am 
Offline
Supreme Marshal
User avatar

Joined: Wed Nov 19, 2003 4:40 pm
Posts: 1980
Karma: 6

Location: Moscow, Russia
Daemonas can't play from 25 to 29 October.

_________________
Massive Assault Clan "Tiger's Galactic Empire"


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Sun Oct 24, 2004 1:24 pm 
Offline
Veteran

Joined: Fri Oct 01, 2004 1:36 am
Posts: 88
Karma: 0
Still think average time per turn is the best way to stop dragging the games. The reason why this is better then chess clock is that we have different planet sizes, which calls for different total time limits.

On the other hand, chess clock is nothing else but allowance to do X turns with a certain average turn time. So either there should be longer total time limits for larger planets, or the same average turn time limit can be used.

Again, i think the developers should be able to compute and show the average turn time easily. Then, the moderators would have an easy job to terminate games that have been played too slowly, while players would still have the flexibility to take a few days off, and then catch up ;)


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Sun Oct 24, 2004 8:20 pm 
Offline
Sea Wolf
User avatar

Joined: Sat Dec 13, 2003 3:06 am
Posts: 1338
Karma: 1

Location: USA
Anything that requires Clan War/ Tourney moderators to spend time calculating values for each game is too much. Unless you're volunteering ;)

Keep in mind as well that the players playing need to just as easily see if they are in danger, so your calculations would need to be easily accessible to all players.

So basically, something like this would best be implemented on the Massive Assault developer end, but they are (rightly) focusing heavily on releasing MA:PR.

As far as the Chess Clock, I'm not seeing any difference between what you're suggesting and what a Chess Clock can do: Set the Chess Clock to two weeks per player as MortonHQ said, and you have 4 weeks to finish the game, period.

But neither of these methods account for when a game goes extra long (I've had games with other players go as high as 40+ turns). In a tournament, that game would have to go into adjucation as all games needed to be concluded within the 4 week window, but in a Clan War or friendly game environment, you can set a Chess clock to have an increment per turn, say 1 day. So each turn you play then adds 1 day to the total time in which you need to complete the game. Your timer would start decrementing as soon as your opponent plays their turn.

A 3rd setting is to use just the increment per turn, and you have the current Massive Assault setup (0 total time 3 day increment is the same as a 3 day hard limit, as you get 3 days added to your clock each time you complete a turn).

With a variable Total game time and a variable per turn increment, you can come up with a range of possible timing schemes that allow both flexibility while forcing the game to continue at a good speed.

_________________
Founder of The New World Order, and moderator for the Andromeda Clan War.

NWO website:
http://www.freewebs.com/massiveassault-nwo/index.htm

Clan War website:
http://www.massiveassault.com/clans/nwo/ClanWar


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Current Standings
PostPosted: Mon Oct 25, 2004 3:03 am 
Offline
Sea Wolf

Joined: Thu Mar 25, 2004 1:24 pm
Posts: 466
Karma: 0
GB 6 Europe 3
Anubis MortonHQ GuerrillaZ
Anubis GuerrillaZ Rocklizard
Bizarria mwigor Deda
Bizarria GuerrillaZ MortonHQ
Brimstone Wanderer Tywer
Brimstone Tywer Wanderer
Butterfly NikTheKid Brett Shaw
Butterfly Vorl NikTheKid
Crateus NikTheKid Vorl
Crateus Vorl mwigor
Emerald Enforcer Brett Shaw
Emerald Tywer Enforcer
New Paradise MortonHQ Brett Shaw
New Paradise Pitor Rocklizard
Noble Rust mwigor Deda
Noble Rust Deda Enforcer
Twin Islands Wanderer Pitor
Twin Islands Pitor Rocklizard

USA 3 Russia 2
Anatarcticus Artanis daemonas
Anatarcticus daemonas Redfox
Anubis Silicor Tiger
Anubis Tiger Redfox
Brimstone ChrisCraven daemonas
Brimstone Norat Artanis
Butterfly Roth Gleb
Butterfly Tiger CrimeGorilla
Crateus Artanis Gleb
Crateus Gleb Redfox
New Paradise Silicor Vixen
New Paradise Mrakobes ChrisCraven
Noble Rust CrimeGorilla Mrakobes
Noble Rust Mrakobes ChrisCraven
Twin Islands CrimeGorilla Norat
Twin Islands Norat Roth
Wasserland Roth Vixen
Wasserland Vixen Silicor


Last edited by mwigor on Fri Oct 29, 2004 3:13 am, edited 6 times in total.

Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Tue Oct 26, 2004 9:35 pm 
Offline
Tough Nut

Joined: Wed Sep 15, 2004 4:53 pm
Posts: 35
Karma: 0

Location: University of Miami, FL
I will be out of town starting tomorrow, Wednesday Oct 27, and getting back in the evening on Monday Nov 1st. Please don't end my games. I will be playing daily again starting late on the 1st. I've also messaged the 3 people I'm playing against.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Thu Oct 28, 2004 3:57 am 
Offline
Supreme Marshal
User avatar

Joined: Wed Nov 19, 2003 4:40 pm
Posts: 1980
Karma: 6

Location: Moscow, Russia
Vixen is ill and could delay his turns. Sorry.

_________________
Massive Assault Clan "Tiger's Galactic Empire"


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Fri Oct 29, 2004 6:12 am 
Offline
Supreme Marshal
User avatar

Joined: Wed Nov 19, 2003 4:40 pm
Posts: 1980
Karma: 6

Location: Moscow, Russia
Pitor is away until monday evening.

_________________
Massive Assault Clan "Tiger's Galactic Empire"


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Mon Nov 01, 2004 5:37 am 
Offline
Supreme Marshal
User avatar

Joined: Wed Nov 19, 2003 4:40 pm
Posts: 1980
Karma: 6

Location: Moscow, Russia
Daemonas can't play until weekend.

_________________
Massive Assault Clan "Tiger's Galactic Empire"


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Mon Nov 01, 2004 5:50 am 
Offline
Sea Wolf

Joined: Thu Jan 15, 2004 8:50 am
Posts: 1443
Karma: 0
it seems that Daemonas can;t play at all during the week? as he did this last week too, surely if u can't play during the week u don't enter tourneys with 3 day limits? (I don't ahve a game with him but it seems unfair to his opponents to keep doing this)

_________________
Have fun, that's an order! If you win even better!!
Clan War Site: http://www.massiveassault.com/clans/nwo/ClanWar/

Dragonshard Fan Site: http://www.rpgplanet.com/dragonshard/


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Mon Nov 01, 2004 8:24 am 
Offline
P.L. Marshal
User avatar

Joined: Thu Nov 13, 2003 11:14 am
Posts: 1065
Karma: 0
problem with Demonas is fixed and he WILL send his tournament and CW turns during week


Last edited by Mrakobes on Mon Nov 01, 2004 6:10 pm, edited 1 time in total.

Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Mon Nov 01, 2004 4:49 pm 
Offline
Veteran
User avatar

Joined: Tue May 25, 2004 5:54 pm
Posts: 137
Karma: 0

Location: Russia, Rostov region
Mrak, this topic is for World Team Championship, not Clan War.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Mon Nov 01, 2004 6:39 pm 
Offline
Supreme Marshal
User avatar

Joined: Wed Nov 19, 2003 4:40 pm
Posts: 1980
Karma: 6

Location: Moscow, Russia
GB 7 Europe 4
Anubis MortonHQ GuerrillaZ
Anubis GuerrillaZ Rocklizard
Bizarria mwigor Deda
Bizarria GuerrillaZ MortonHQ
Brimstone Wanderer Tywer
Brimstone Tywer Wanderer
Butterfly NikTheKid Brett Shaw
Butterfly Vorl NikTheKid
Crateus NikTheKid Vorl
Crateus Vorl mwigor
Emerald Enforcer Brett Shaw
Emerald Tywer Enforcer
New Paradise MortonHQ Brett Shaw
New Paradise Pitor Rocklizard
Noble Rust mwigor Deda
Noble Rust Deda Enforcer
Twin Islands Wanderer Pitor
Twin Islands Pitor Rocklizard

USA 4 Russia 3
Anatarcticus Artanis daemonas
Anatarcticus daemonas Redfox
Anubis Silicor Tiger
Anubis Tiger Redfox
Brimstone ChrisCraven daemonas
Brimstone Norat Artanis
Butterfly Roth Gleb
Butterfly Tiger CrimeGorilla
Crateus Artanis Gleb
Crateus Gleb Redfox
New Paradise Silicor Vixen
New Paradise Mrakobes ChrisCraven
Noble Rust CrimeGorilla Mrakobes
Noble Rust Mrakobes ChrisCraven
Twin Islands CrimeGorilla Norat
Twin Islands Norat Roth
Wasserland Roth Vixen
Wasserland Vixen Silicor

_________________
Massive Assault Clan "Tiger's Galactic Empire"


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Wed Nov 03, 2004 8:08 am 
Offline
Sea Wolf

Joined: Thu Mar 25, 2004 1:24 pm
Posts: 466
Karma: 0
GB 10 Europe 6
Anubis MortonHQ GuerrillaZ
Anubis GuerrillaZ Rocklizard
Bizarria mwigor Deda
Bizarria GuerrillaZ MortonHQ
Brimstone Wanderer Tywer
Brimstone Tywer Wanderer
Butterfly NikTheKid Brett Shaw
Butterfly Vorl NikTheKid
Crateus NikTheKid Vorl
Crateus Vorl mwigor
Emerald Enforcer Brett Shaw
Emerald Tywer Enforcer
New Paradise MortonHQ Brett Shaw
New Paradise Pitor Rocklizard
Noble Rust mwigor Deda
Noble Rust Deda Enforcer
Twin Islands Wanderer Pitor
Twin Islands Pitor Rocklizard

USA 5 Russia 5
Anatarcticus Artanis daemonas
Anatarcticus daemonas Redfox
Anubis Silicor Tiger
Anubis Tiger Redfox
Brimstone ChrisCraven daemonas
Brimstone Norat Artanis
Butterfly Roth Gleb
Butterfly Tiger CrimeGorilla
Crateus Artanis Gleb
Crateus Gleb Redfox
New Paradise Silicor Vixen
New Paradise Mrakobes ChrisCraven
Noble Rust CrimeGorilla Mrakobes
Noble Rust Mrakobes ChrisCraven
Twin Islands CrimeGorilla Norat
Twin Islands Norat Roth
Wasserland Roth Vixen
Wasserland Vixen Silicor


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: GB defeat Europe
PostPosted: Wed Nov 10, 2004 1:27 pm 
Offline
Sea Wolf

Joined: Thu Mar 25, 2004 1:24 pm
Posts: 466
Karma: 0
GB became the first team to qualify for the Final Today.

If there is sufficient interest there will be a 3rd place playoff between Europe and the loser of the other Semi-Final.


Top
 Profile  
 
Display posts from previous:  Sort by  
Forum locked This topic is locked, you cannot edit posts or make further replies.  [ 283 posts ]  Go to page Previous  1 ... 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15  Next

All times are UTC - 5 hours


Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 1 guest


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot post attachments in this forum

Search for:
Jump to:  
cron
Powered by phpBB © 2000, 2002, 2005, 2007 phpBB Group
Karma functions powered by Karma MOD © 2007, 2009 m157y